Their teacher became their leader. His students became his soldiers.
A school teacher discusses types of government with his class. His students find it too boring to repeatedly go over national socialism and believe that dictatorship cannot be established in modern Germany. He starts an experiment to show how easily the masses can become manipulated.
Once in school, my granddaughter wrote an essay on the so-called “Third Wave” experiment, which was conducted with his students by history teacher Ron Jones in the small California town of Palo Alto. At her request, then she found a film by German director Dennis Ganzel, which in Russian is called “Experiment 2: Wave”, in the original
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Once in school, my granddaughter wrote an essay on the so-called “Third Wave” experiment, which was conducted with his students by history teacher Ron Jones in the small California town of Palo Alto. At her request, then she found a film by German director Dennis Ganzel, which in Russian is called “Experiment 2: Wave”, in the original simply “Die Welle”. At that time I did not go into the question and did not know that an American television film had been made, as well as a book and many publications had been written. So I decided to watch this movie. I must say, it turned out to be very relevant. The story told in this film, as I found out, is somewhat different from the real story, the ending in it is more tragic than it actually was. While studying World War II, a schoolboy asked Jones how ordinary Germans could pretend to know nothing about concentration camps and the mass extermination of people in their country. Since the class was ahead of the curriculum, Jones decided to set aside one week for an experiment on the subject (from the Wikipedia article https://bit.ly/3IsOpmi). In this film, it is presented as one of two projects, one of which was to be devoted to anarchy, the second to autocracy. The main character of the film, teacher Rainer Wenger, wanted to conduct a project dedicated to anarchy, but another teacher took him and Rainer got autocracy. At first the pupils were very skeptical and mocking of the teacher’s assertion that a dictatorship could easily be established in modern Germany, and then the teacher conducts an experiment in which, with the help of a few techniques of manipulation, Rainer quite easily proves this to them, only two girls refuse to obey the proclaimed rules and leave the group, while more and more participants pour into it from the outside, and all this in just one week. The experiment ends tragically, the result stuns the participants. I won’t tell anyone who wants to see it. The film makes a pretty strong impression. On the site of the participants of the real experiment, there is also a video in which Jones briefly talks about the experiment: https://bit.ly/3qjM5HX.
First of all, I would like to remind you that the first “Experiment” film is based on real events, it is not just a horror movie, but a documentary film. The second film is also based on a true story (in which no one died) and not to show "more blood and violence" and not to make the viewer scary. It was taken to reveal some of the
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First of all, I would like to remind you that the first “Experiment” film is based on real events, it is not just a horror movie, but a documentary film. The second film is also based on a true story (in which no one died) and not to show "more blood and violence" and not to make the viewer scary. It was taken to reveal some of the real things. Now that the obvious is over, let me move on to the subtlety – the film is German. This is a country that has been holding the blame for World War II for generations. Nazism is generally not welcomed in the modern world, and in Germany today this topic is feared simply like incense, and the film is built around this fear, this complex. “Can something like this happen again in modern Germany?” is the thought to which everything here is devoted, and it was formulated directly at the beginning and at the end, so it is strange to me that so few people noticed it. Now for the minuses. Precisely because modern Germans’ fear of the subject is exaggerated, the film seems unconvincing to non-Germans. A charismatic teacher for a week becomes the Fuehrer for his class and the sports team of the school – only 6 days is enough to establish dictatorship, terror and vandalism in the city, armed conflicts. Are you crazy? The shown model of the relationship between teacher and students in school is the usual order of things in Russian schools! I do not like it at all, but this is how every second teacher behaves in our country: builds in lines, commands, yells, does not let you sit down, get up, pee. In our 4th grade, the teacher loved to break pointers on a table or board in anger, once broke about a student. That's how we live! 11 years. And here we are shown how in 6 fucking days a history teacher built the Fourth Reich without even wanting to.
A failed experiment
It’s a cruel movie, to say the least. Very famously twisted plot. Overall, I liked the film. I wouldn’t say that it shows the cruel truth of life, but there are such cases, although not common. Like every political party, they beat their supporters, who were the majority, and their opponents,
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A failed experiment It’s a cruel movie, to say the least. Very famously twisted plot. Overall, I liked the film. I wouldn’t say that it shows the cruel truth of life, but there are such cases, although not common. Like every political party, they beat their supporters, who were the majority, and their opponents, who were few. The whole film I was more inclined to the other side, because, firstly, I never supported youth movements in all their manifestations, and secondly, in this case it was right, not because it was a copy of Nazism of the forties of the last century, and not because under totalitarian power people turned into zombies in the hands of one person, but because, as one of the characters of the film noted, they are smarter than all this. The entire film is divided into 6 days. Every day the situation worsened and as a result, the wave got out of control, it was impossible to stop. The ending begged, it could not be otherwise. In such films, there is no happy ending, life is shown only from the side from which the director, screenwriter sees it. I don’t know if there was such a story, I don’t know if the inscriptions at the beginning of the film that the film is based on real events, but I think that this could hardly happen these days, primarily because people have become smarter and people have become as “cleaner”, I don’t know how to explain it, but the fact remains. I'm interested in Mr. Wenger's position. Whether he believed in the wave and if it was over for him or if it was going to live with him for the rest of his life, I think in the end, he realized that he had made a mistake. It is strange for such a film to rate, but still for the reliability of the events shown, not realistic, I still do not believe in this story, for a good performance of actors, especially Jürgen Vogel, for all this 7.5 out of 10. In the end, I think the film turned out despite its significant flaws. I advise everyone to look to decide for themselves which side he is on. Original
A failed experiment
It’s a cruel movie, to say the least. Very famously twisted plot. Overall, I liked the film. I wouldn’t say that it shows the cruel truth of life, but there are such cases, although not common. Like every political party, they beat their supporters, who were the majority, and their opponents,
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A failed experiment It’s a cruel movie, to say the least. Very famously twisted plot. Overall, I liked the film. I wouldn’t say that it shows the cruel truth of life, but there are such cases, although not common. Like every political party, they beat their supporters, who were the majority, and their opponents, who were few. The whole film I was more inclined to the other side, because, firstly, I never supported youth movements in all their manifestations, and secondly, in this case it was right, not because it was a copy of Nazism of the forties of the last century, and not because under totalitarian power people turned into zombies in the hands of one person, but because, as one of the characters of the film noted, they are smarter than all this. The entire film is divided into 6 days. Every day the situation worsened and as a result, the wave got out of control, it was impossible to stop. The ending begged, it could not be otherwise. In such films, there is no happy ending, life is shown only from the side from which the director, screenwriter sees it. I don’t know if there was such a story, I don’t know if the inscriptions at the beginning of the film that the film is based on real events, but I think that this could hardly happen these days, primarily because people have become smarter and people have become as “cleaner”, I don’t know how to explain it, but the fact remains. I'm interested in Mr. Wenger's position. Whether he believed in the wave and if it was over for him or if it was going to live with him for the rest of his life, I think in the end, he realized that he had made a mistake. It is strange for such a film to rate, but still for the reliability of the events shown, not realistic, I still do not believe in this story, for a good performance of actors, especially Jürgen Vogel, for all this 7.5 out of 10. In the end, I think the film turned out despite its significant flaws. I advise everyone to look to decide for themselves which side he is on. Original
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